The Movement

Thumber

by
Gina LoBuglio
Gina LoBuglio | Mar 4, 2016 | in Rate These Concepts

Look out for the the new Thumber stops in your area. Just like the Uber cab service this app knows where all members are, so when you're waiting at a designated lift stop you can see and virtually hail the nearest accredited member. All members get to accumulate rewards from a basket of benefits, from reduced insurance to carbon credits. So save money, energy and get where you're going fast with Thumber! 

joanna butler-savage Mar 4, 2016

i would be very concerned about someone misusing this - i dislike the idea of this. it also sounds like a direct copy.

Janet Bradley Mar 4, 2016

My questions would be... how is each member of this thumber app checked and validated? On what basis can people join? What information is provided and how is it validated? Does the company which owns the app keep records of all journeys in case of an issue?

Fiona Boubert Mar 8, 2016

I had those questions too.

joanna butler-savage Mar 4, 2016

this would only work in heavily populated customer areas like cities - it's not worth the company's time and fuel to hang around suburban and rural areas.

Janet Bradley Mar 4, 2016

that is very true.... especially a day like today where we had snow!

Gill Chedgey Mar 5, 2016

The same safety and security issues come up again and again over the course of this community. And once/if they can be cracked (!?) many of these concepts are highly workable. Just a thought but I'm sure it is impractical and costly but could applicants be CRB checked? There may be some reassurance in that? And as it is app driven (sorry no intentional pun) all journeys could be tracked from start to destination to address another security issue? But it would probably make it too expensive a service to administer? And in agreement with others I would think that this is only workable in urban areas. But without extensive considerations to its workability and safety I'm not sure this is a viable concept, sorry.

Nicky Griffiths Mar 5, 2016

Yes Whizz, I mentioned DBS (as CRB is now called) checks in another concept. I'm sure individuals wouldn't want to pay for this and I can't see any organisation paying for everyone involved!

Janet Bradley Mar 5, 2016

To get the checks it takes quite a bit of effort... many may just not think it's worth it.... you would only need one person attacked in any way, for this to suddenly stop being used.

Nicky Griffiths Mar 5, 2016

Yes, just because someone passes the checks it doesn't mean they are not going to offend.

Mary O'Connor Mar 5, 2016

Just because the person has got a DBS check does not mean that they are safe unfortunately.

Janet Bradley Mar 7, 2016

that is true... as we know there have been instances of teachers passing DBS checks and then preying on children... it's difficult.

joanna butler-savage Mar 5, 2016

its also totally pointless - i work in the criminal justice system and there are a lot of dodgy people out there who have never been convicted of anything and so a search would not reveal anything untoward.

Gill Chedgey Mar 6, 2016

I think that if it were viable it would have been utilised broadly for many online activities. No system will ever be foolproof, I guess.

Janet Bradley Mar 9, 2016

That#s true... if there were a fool proof system invented, the inventor would make a mint - so many would want to use it!

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Mary O'Connor Mar 5, 2016

I wouldn't like this at all. You don't know who you are getting in the car with! You can be very vulnerable in a car with someone you don't know on your own.

joanna butler-savage Mar 5, 2016

i think we should stick with buses - it sounds like its trying to be an ultra clever version of this!

Janet Bradley Mar 5, 2016

I guess the issue that has been raised.. buses/trains are not always covering the journey we wish to take, and at the time.

joanna butler-savage Mar 6, 2016

people are too impatient these days - my view is that as long as we are kept informed and the information turns out to be accurate, we are satisfied. i would never compromise safety for convenience

Janet Bradley Mar 9, 2016

I call today's society the "ready meal" society... so lacking in patience, that even food prep is deemed unnecessary!

Julian Starkey Mar 10, 2016

I think you might be right, the only exception being for non existent routes or where connections are poor, buses carry more people.

joanna butler-savage Mar 10, 2016

particularly the bendy buses - they work great on the continent and ave fantastic accessibility for pushchairs and wheelchair users - cars can exclude a certain category of passenger, for me child car seats have previously proved problematic when getting a lift from a friend or family member

Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

Bendy buses in London too...only problem is people getting on the back and not paying

Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

The buses round where I live are always mostly full....great to see, as reduces car journeys

Fiona Boubert Mar 7, 2016

Totally agree, I have the same concerns

Neil Kennedy Mar 20, 2016

I agree with you, far too risky

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Jade Hewlett Mar 6, 2016

I don't know I would use it as I would worry about safety but it's good that it encourages car sharing. I'd be worried about getting in the car with strangers though even if they are a member of the app. I would rather pay more and get a taxi or any other public transport.

joanna butler-savage Mar 6, 2016

i agree with you - i don't trust many people these days

Janet Bradley Mar 6, 2016

Yes, I think I would prefer to pay too for a taxi

Janet Bradley Mar 6, 2016

I have hitch hiked... and I did have a nasty experience.. but it was Jamaica!

joanna butler-savage Mar 6, 2016

sounds familiar - we had a rotten time in cuba

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Fiona Boubert Mar 7, 2016

I would definitely have security concerns about this kind of service. The potential level of checking required to give a security assurance would likely result in a cost for each user as I doubt the company would fund DBS or equivalent, a standard check is £26. This could put people off using it and there is still no guarantee that people with inappropriate motives would not slip through.
The company running the app would also have to check driving licences, vehicle registration, road tax, insurance, MOT's etc giving them more administrative costs. I cannot imagine that they would be able to avoid liability if road accidents resulted in injury or death so they would need to check that drivers and cars met legal requirements.
I know there are many apps already for car sharing but its really not an avenue I would consider unless it was regulated through my workplace. This app has too much potential to be misused by people with the wrong motives.

joanna butler-savage Mar 10, 2016

i have thought about this suggestion a lot but think there are too many pitfalls - taxis can be dodgy enough so this is opening even more issues up

Julian Starkey Mar 10, 2016

The right tech would be able to track the drivers safety and maybe test them before they sign up. Link it through DVLA for accreditation, the principle here is lift swap so I give you a seat one day you give me or some one else in our pool a lift the next day, maybe I'm not on the same page.

joanna butler-savage Mar 10, 2016

thats a very good point - if everyone were properly tracked and obviously agreed to this then it could work very well

Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

I think men will always favour this more than women...I would only feel comfortable if I could car share with a woman...maybe that could be specified.

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Julian Starkey Mar 10, 2016

This reminds me of people working in Washington DC living down the I95 and taking in turns to drive from a satellite car park to the pentagon you'd park wait a a stop then some one would give you a lift. I can how an app would track people taking turns to drive, and it would manage the times you weren't available. The app would sort out you driving or not by knowing who had signed in to the service. Signing up to a tracker or some other security feature could mitigate some concerns. The right app could probably assign people to vehicles to keep the flow going.

joanna butler-savage Mar 10, 2016

if it were properly organised as you describe then i think this could be an excellent way to get around

Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

I take your point....but even people falsify their driving licence"

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Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

I'm wondering what would you do if you picked someone up and then realised that it was a bad idea.. what safety net could there be? Could there be part of the app where you could have an alarm button?

Janet Bradley Mar 11, 2016

I wonder what terms and conditions the app would need when you joined up? any thoughts?

Neil Kennedy Mar 20, 2016

Far too many for any company to seriously want to do it. Too many legal ramifications!

Neil Kennedy Mar 20, 2016

I would not use this app, it has far too many risks attached and I would not put myself into that kind of situation where random people were giving me a lift.